CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OUR KILLED TROOPS

I would like to know, after hearing another 5 men have lost their lives in Afghanistan, should we still have our soldiers even there? Is whatever the war is truly about, is it worth all those people affected, never having them around again? I feel like all Australians should have a say in where we send these brave people and know it’s worth it. So sad for their families…
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13 thoughts on “CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OUR KILLED TROOPS

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    Vicki Lawlor, Amanda Pamment Black and 32 others like this.

    Andrew Murray No. they’ve been there long enough. bring them home before any more are killed.
    17 hours ago · Like · 2

    John Tsavdaridis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMSUesTzf20 ….could not put it any better than this…

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    17 hours ago · Like ·

    Susanne Margrie-Haebich I don’t understand after finally “getting” bin larden, why are we still there??? I’ve had friends that gave served n said we shudn’t be there-why arn’t they asking the soldiers putting their lives on the line what’s the best thing???
    17 hours ago via mobile · Unlike · 1

    Susanne Margrie-Haebich ‎*have
    17 hours ago via mobile · Like

    Julie De-Anne Jolly NO, they should come home, not our war 🙁
    17 hours ago · Unlike · 2

    Stephen Cooper Amber, 5 heroes died for our country in Afghanistan. Each life lost overseas saves hundreds of thousands of lives potentially lost over here. Look at it that way. True heroes who we shall forever be indebted to. But they are doing a necessary job, fighting the fight overseas and preventing it coming to our shores. I will go to work freely tomorrow knowing I do so safely cause of these guys. We need them and the freedom they allow us.
    17 hours ago · Like · 9

    Lisa O’Malley our soldiers choose to be there, they are not just there to fight a war, they are there protecting the innocent people in that country, without our troops, americas,kiwis, etc they would be wiping out entire communities until there is no one left. we should feel proud that they make the decision to sign up and help people.
    17 hours ago · Like · 5

    Robby Cummins this is Australia and we have the right as citizens to call a referendum so why should we not ask the people and especially ask the troops if they want to be there or if they are needed – I only know the views of a few that have served and they all believe they are needed and want to be there to do their bit, but that is a very small sample size and its about engaging all the stakeholders views – so is it time to ask ALL Australians what they think and then decide and act acording to the wishes of the people through suitable process?
    17 hours ago · Unlike · 1

    Connie O’Brien So agree, this is NOT our problem and I don’t know why our younger people have to fight the battle that belongs to someone else and die in the process. They have no choice, they are sent by our government.
    17 hours ago · Like · 2

    May Ruth I agree Amber, I know a dear friend Kezia, who lost her fiance two years ago in Afghanistan. It was so terribly sad and for all of those families and friends who have lost their loved ones since. Our government needs to rethink the reasons why our troops are still out there. xxxooo
    17 hours ago · Like

    Julie De-Anne Jolly and I know of friends that joined the army & wanted out, but guess what….they don’t allow you out, you sign up for yrs, so not fair!
    17 hours ago · Like · 1

    Chantelle Smith I would like to know whose war we are fighting and why – what are we sacrificing lives for?! 🙁
    17 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1

    Rob Joy I dont agree with war period its unecessary part of life we have no major results once we pull out things will go back to normal 38 have been taken that is 38 familys destroyed for life those ppl need support ADF are not doing nuff I know guys who have come back getting treatesd like crap, one had his service medals posted to him with NO ceremony to say thanks he feels like crap! time we brought all of our diggers home and gillard can go jump as far as I’m concered I dont trust liers……least we forget the fallen and at the going down of the sun we will remember them! RIP
    17 hours ago · Like · 3

    Kim Burger Why dont we ask the Politicians how many of their own children are over there and would they still feel the same way they do if they did have children over there. Its all good to say leave them there they are fighting someone elses war but they dont have to live every day in fear of possibly not seeing their child ever again.
    17 hours ago · Like · 1

    Mark Huxtable as a former soldier i look at things and see things differently…but everyone is entitled to there opinion. if you ask me would i do it again the answer would be yes as id know im protecting the people back home in australia…its hard for loved ones i remember my mum telling me when i left the service that she was so scared and worried about me as she never knew where i was…so as a parent now i can see the heartache and pain it caused my family…so i guess it all depends on the soldier themselves….i dont agree with war but sometimes its a necessity in order for australia and the australian people to live in the country that they are
    17 hours ago via mobile · Like · 6

    Stacey Lewis Our government wants our defence force to go over to these war torn country. Julia Gillard has a speech prepared for her to say how sorry she feels, but when these soldiers are injured or suffer post traumatic stress, they are treated like crap. They do not look after them when they come home
    16 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1

    Paul Rodda I dont think we should be asking “ALL AUSTRALIAN’s” what they think, because most Australian’s dont have a clue about this war. ME included. How can we be asked to make a decision with virtually NO facts? I am laissez-faire on this issue, because I cant necessarily change the need to be there or effect the motivation to send troops there. I wouldn’t claim to know the first thing about this war. It is easy to say “5 people died we should pull them out”. But it makes about as much sense as saying “5 police officers were killed in the line of duty, we should disband the force so no more lives are put at risk”. Public figures should make less “Fact Free” statements which corrupt the minds of the manipulable minorities.
    16 hours ago · Like · 3

    Aaron Barker No-one wants to see our soldiers over there, let alone any lives lost… However in the world we live in, it has become very necessary to protect our country & civil liberties thru conflict! For evil to conquer all it takes is for good people to do nothing! I think it’s more of an injustice that too many people that have it far too good in this country take for granted the sacrifice these people make!!!
    16 hours ago via mobile · Like · 5

    Emma Paterson It’s not even our fight we shouldn’t even be there…. Too much violence in this world and what have we learned from history ? Not much it seems…. Please everyone lets speak up and Bring all our soldiers home now x
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    Paul Rodda What’s not “our fight” Emma? I’m really keen to hear what people think it is they are doing over there. Lots of you are saying its a waste of life, and time. So what are they wasting it on?…. Im really keen to know.
    16 hours ago · Like

    Karen Lovey Why defend at all??? When really is Australia under attack??? Step it up Julia and stop our men and families from being victims, Political policies my ass save our families first!!!! If you have a son should he die for you really common it’s not fair and it’s just wrong!!!
    16 hours ago via mobile · Like

    Stephen Haggett No
    16 hours ago · Like

    Gary Pozzebon Absolutly not ! Theres alot more to the war than anti -taliban
    16 hours ago · Like

    Emma Paterson Paul my nephew was caught in the last ambush and hasnt been right since …. War is unnecessary in today’s civilised world…. We need to step back and look at history… If the country can’t agree with each other why are we trying to make them??? It’s that country who need to fix things and we need our military here to defend our shores
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    Paul Rodda Im sorry to hear about your nephew, that is very sad. But I disagree that we necessarily live in a “civilised world”. Civilisation affords certain minimal rights to people, and those rights are being flouted all over the world. I only had to travel to India for a month to see how tough it is in a peaceful country which is overpopulated and short on basic facilities. It is easy to be one of the 8% in the world with an internet connection, sitting here casting aspersions as we do over the way the planet is operated from the comfort of our air-conditioned living rooms (hey I’m doing it now), but I dont think we can possibly begin to grasp the nature of the “big picture” with the limited information we are getting via a biased, advertising driven media who are counter productive in any political and socialist debate. Im not suggesting we shouldnt bring them back, OR that we should. I just ask for a modicum of common sense to be applied, rather than all this BAND WAGON jumping, perpetuated by the voice of public figures.
    15 hours ago · Like

    Emma Paterson Well I’m glad u have ur air conditioned place… Isn’t that history that gave u it …. Thousands of ppl died for us to have this world we live in…band wagon jumping creates change that is so desperately needed… If media is the tool to create change then so be it… A change of heart won’t bring back the list lives but a change of attitude towards senseless wars may just help bring a lot more peace x
    15 hours ago via mobile · Like

    Paul Rodda I know what you mean. The French revolution is a great example as is the American Civil war – but the difference is they knew what they were fighting for. I dont think we truly understand what the fighting is for in this war.. and everything else – the rhetoric – is just guessing. We are all just guessing.
    15 hours ago · Like

    Neil Hazeldine The taliban will never have to invade your country they are on every street corner and in every drug users arm. This war is about the control of the global heroin trade. Kill off the taliban and burn the poppy fields and then watch the whole industry move to Northern Lao or Burma. Whats the bloody point! The American s want a war and they have it.
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    Emma Paterson Freedom of life…. It’s a choice we make… If they don’t want that then its their choice … Not for us to force the choice on them.
    15 hours ago via mobile · Like

    Luke Jones Yeah they should stay… There professional soliders most actually want to be there!
    14 hours ago · Like

    Ereca Hinton Well said Neil
    10 hours ago via mobile · Like

    David Henty Sutton Amber you do have a say in it . Its called a vote, especially if it was for Lobor.
    10 hours ago · Unlike · 1

    David Henty Sutton Sooty I mean Labor.
    10 hours ago · Like

    David Henty Sutton Sorry, I don’t mean ‘ Sooty’ I mean Sorry. can’t type in the dark.
    10 hours ago · Like

    Lisa O’Malley I agree with you paul. If we lived in a civilised world there would be no fighting.if we dont continue to help these people they will be wiped out,once they have taken over that country there will be another,keep allowing that they will be on our soil next
    9 hours ago · Like

    Rosemary Clarke no brung them home
    8 hours ago · Like

    Amy Fangbanger Northman Paul thank you for mentioning also our local armed force the police. There are deaths there too and no outcry then about crime that is in our very own community just complaints about how corrupt they are. Sorry for the families loss of these five soldiers, lest we forget.
    8 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1

    Amber Petty I don’t think this is our war, in fact they’re rarely ever our wars. But seriously the reason we went to fight this war was so long ago and so clearly proven to be riddled with lies from George Bush and his dodgy men. Anyone that thinks that we’re in danger over here from the Taliban and the like has bought into America’s fear campaign. The damage between America and those parts of the world has been done by them and them alone. Nothing to do with us. And I’m sorry, I wouldn’t trust the American government as far as I could throw them. We shouldn’t have lost one life in this American war. Makes me sad. So sad for the soldiers families
    about an hour ago · Like · 1

    Lisa O’Malley I have a friend in israel, she is so grateful to all troops over there protecting her and their people, she says without us they would be wiped out, innocent people are killed there ev day, they need our help.
    about an hour ago · Like

  2. hi Lisa, I’m glad your friend feels protected by us over there – is she Australian? If she’s not I still think it’s that side of the world’s fight and there’s enough of them already fighting…. I don’t believe that violence is the way to get peace in the world. I think it’s a convenient and suspiciously ignorant approach to issues and has never ever worked. No disrespect to your friend obviously. It’s a volatile part of the world she’s living in. I’d love to visit Israel one day though.

  3. Amy Fangbanger Northman Paul thank you for mentioning also our local armed force the police. There are deaths there too and no outcry then about crime that is in our very own community just complaints about how corrupt they are. Sorry for the families loss of these five soldiers, lest we forget.
    8 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1

  4. Lisa O’Malley I agree with you paul. If we lived in a civilised world there would be no fighting.if we dont continue to help these people they will be wiped out,once they have taken over that country there will be another,keep allowing that they will be on our soil next
    9 hours ago · Like

  5. Neil Hazeldine The taliban will never have to invade your country they are on every street corner and in every drug users arm. This war is about the control of the global heroin trade. Kill off the taliban and burn the poppy fields and then watch the whole industry move to Northern Lao or Burma. Whats the bloody point! The American s want a war and they have it.
    15 hours ago · Unlike · 2

  6. Paul Rodda Im sorry to hear about your nephew, that is very sad. But I disagree that we necessarily live in a “civilised world”. Civilisation affords certain minimal rights to people, and those rights are being flouted all over the world. I only had to travel to India for a month to see how tough it is in a peaceful country which is overpopulated and short on basic facilities. It is easy to be one of the 8% in the world with an internet connection, sitting here casting aspersions as we do over the way the planet is operated from the comfort of our air-conditioned living rooms (hey I’m doing it now), but I dont think we can possibly begin to grasp the nature of the “big picture” with the limited information we are getting via a biased, advertising driven media who are counter productive in any political and socialist debate. Im not suggesting we shouldnt bring them back, OR that we should. I just ask for a modicum of common sense to be applied, rather than all this BAND WAGON jumping, perpetuated by the voice of public figures.
    15 hours ago · Like

  7. My brother-in-law is there right now and was more than likely on the helicopter that crashed. For me personally it’s not about whether or not they are there, It’s what is the Australian government doing to protect and provide for our brave heroes. No one in Australia will insure them while they are overseas, it’s an American company that insures them!!!, my brother-in-law is away from his family for 7 months, he is not given time or support to grieve the losses and then on top of that the government comes after them for not paying enough taxes. That is the atrocity that should be addressed how these brave souls and their families, who serve and sacrifice so much, are treated by the Australian government.

    • Hi Lee, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and story. It must be absolutely terrifying and so stressful having someone you know and love over there. How does your sister cope? She must lose alot of sleep sometimes…I can’t imagine how tough that must be. And yes I hear you about the government not looking after them enough or supporting the family back at home. It’s almost weird to me that the family even needs to pay taxes on alot of things given one of them is away fighting for their country and there because the government decided they should go. I wonder too as you say in terms of the grieving of mates that are lost over here how that works. Is there counsellors on standby to help them through or is it like the old days where they are just expected to get on with it? And then they eventually send these poor souls home to get back on with life without working through any of the trauma they’ve suffered. That’s the heartbreaking thing too is that even after the so called horror of war is over, they come home and no one understands what’s happened in their heads. And they must feel so very very lost and alone. SO SO sad.x

  8. I read through these comments and see several saying that our soldiers are protecting our interests here at home. Rubbish – They are protecting the political objectives of the Bush Administration – from 11 years ago. There is no honor in our continued presence in Afghanistan. We are there simply to promote the broken ideals of the Anzus Treaty.

    • I agree totally. I honestly don’t know how our government can sleep at night knowing all our dead soldiers families will never ever seeing these men again. For what? The American agenda. Makes me sick. And sad

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